glass wallcovering

[fritz]

Hi, This is the first time I've posted, so I hope I'm doing this right. An upcoming project I am doing involves hanging a wallcovering from Innovations. It is a paper backed product that is completely covered with tiny glass beads. It is a great looking product, but how to install? They did send some tips and we discussed the problem at my local Guild chapter's meeting. At this point, I am thinking of making templates for each piece, since it cannot be cut or trimmed on its face. Does anyone have any other ideas, or any advice or experience working with this type of material or working with templates? Thank you for any input, Fritz

[Chris Murphy]

Fritz, you'r doing fine, welcome to the Forum. Is the wallcovering originally from May Romanoff, called "Bedazzled?" It's on a few spots in different threads, notably this : http://ngpp.org/lounge/showthread.php?t=1204

When you go through the headings, threads, etc., there are more stored from previous times. Look near the bottom of the page for where it says "posts over ....old."

[mischa]

Chris -
I can't access the referenced URL....?
when I try, it tells me:

"mischa, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation. "

what's that all about?

Michael K.

[Chris Murphy]

Mischa, that's one of the advantages of membership: access to the Members Only section of the Forum.

[Boston Hangman]

Mischa

I have heard of the Innovations glass beaded wallcovering a decorator asked me about it as well . I believe it is 54" wide and seems to be the same as Maya Romanoff Bedazzled. The decorator decided to use the MR on this project , I am putting it on a ceiling. Template and patience and trim with heat and patience and charge by the hour and patience and Good Luck!

Mark W.
Boston

[Boston Hangman]

Sorry i meant to address that to Fritz..

[fritz]

Fritz, you'r doing fine, welcome to the Forum. Is the wallcovering originally from May Romanoff, called "Bedazzled?" It's on a few spots in different threads, notably this : http://ngpp.org/lounge/showthread.php?t=1204

When you go through the headings, threads, etc., there are more stored from previous times. Look near the bottom of the page for where it says "posts over ....old."

Thanks for the reply. I don't know if what I have is a Maya Romanoff product, but it looks like it is the same type of animal. I was told that they were glass beads, but maybe they are plastic?

[fritz]

Mischa

I have heard of the Innovations glass beaded wallcovering a decorator asked me about it as well . I believe it is 54" wide and seems to be the same as Maya Romanoff Bedazzled. The decorator decided to use the MR on this project , I am putting it on a ceiling. Template and patience and trim with heat and patience and charge by the hour and patience and Good Luck!

Mark W.
Boston

Yes, it is sold by the yard in 54" widths. Installing this on a ceiling must be quite a challange!

I have never used the templating method with wallcovering before, but this is my plan. First, hang a piece of fairly stiff vinyl for the template. Then, trim the sides of the "Bedazzled" ( Innovations calls it "Murano"), and lay it face down on my table. Clean the "goop" off of my template and lay it face down on the back side of my finished piece and trim around the edge. ---Sounds simple enough, but I know better!
Would you mind giving me a few tips?
Does my basic game plan for templating sound correct? What would would you add to it?
Why do you use heat to trim?
If I'm going to be cutting a lot of seams, would you recommend buying a rotary cutter, or can I get by with a staight edge and blade.
The instuctions stated that a tight seam wasn't possible and that the seams would be visible should be worked into the architecture (paneling your sheets). Have you been able to get decent seams, or would you recommend panelizing the room?
Dry hang or paste?
Is the material pliable or stiff when wet?

Innovations suggests that after a sheet is hung it can be trimmed with a razor. And to use a new blade after each cut. (I think that I will disagree)

Well, I could go on and on. Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks, Fritz

[fritz]

Mischa, that's one of the advantages of membership: access to the Members Only section of the Forum.

Nice job!-----Fritz

[Chris Murphy]

Fritz- your analysis is right on. Keep up with Mark and members that went to the Media workshop: they seem to have found the 'best practices' with the stuff. And yeah they're glass beads: blades either force them outta the way, or only cut the substrate. The Maya is very heavy; at 54", the weight alone will require a helper, or 2. BTW, I found the factory edges were as good as could be achieved.

[Boston Hangman]

Why do you use heat to trim?
If I'm going to be cutting a lot of seams, would you recommend buying a rotary cutter, or can I get by with a staight edge and blade.
The instuctions stated that a tight seam wasn't possible and that the seams would be visible should be worked into the architecture (paneling your sheets). Have you been able to get decent seams, or would you recommend panelizing the room?
Dry hang or paste?
Is the material pliable or stiff when wet?

Innovations suggests that after a sheet is hung it can be trimmed with a razor. And to use a new blade after each cut. (I think that I will disagree)

Fritz
The template method you described should serve you well, type II vinyl trimmed down to the width of the wallcovering (ie: 28.5" w/ MR) .

We use a heat gun to aid in trimming because it loosens the glue and helps in separating the beads during the trimming. It is possible to do it without heat
and some prefer it. There is no right way. As Chris mentioned above the factory seams are the best I have seen.

The rotary trimmer was demonstrated at the MR workshop in Media , Gary Lucas has a thread on here regarding the use of it. I have no experience ,but if I did I would use it as much as possible to trim this product as it seemed to be the best way to trim it.:)

As for panelling, I would try to place the sheets in a pleasing manner but would not trim them down to balance as with a grasscloth . This stuff is a b*tch to trim as it is against casings and ceilings let alone trying to trim it to butt:eek: .

When they mention changing your blade a lot...they mean it! The blade is absolute garbage after perhaps 3- 4 inches..:lol:

Good Luck ! read the instructions, but use your own experiences as well and the help of your fellow members. If you are a God fearing man it couldn't hurt to ask for help there either;) this stuff was born in H*ll:devil:

Mark W .
Boston

[Chris Murphy]

Fritz- just to add to Mark's comments:
-Maya's stuff can come in custom width/lengths; maybe Innovations can too. That way you could figure what width's you needed for each wall, and order appropriately. If they think the materials cost is high, wait til you show them the charge for labor.
-You may be able to borrow a rotary trimmer; if you were real, real, real nice, I'd let you borrow mine. You would need to buy replacement blades, though(Embee/ Marshalltown). Between the heat, snips & trimmer, the job those folks did at the workshop was a real blend of the highest art & science.

[fritz]

Thanks Chris and Mark, I appreciate your insights. The area where I'll be installing the beads should be a fairly easy area to hang. However, I know that the designer on this project really likes this stuff and will probably want to use it again. So, having an easy pactice area and your advice I will hopefully be prepared for the next time. If I find that I develop any tricks I will post them here. Thanks again---Fritz