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DBLCUT
06-17-2007, 08:58 AM
:rant: i feel like a bad guy on this great web site. i don't want any trouble with anyone. if you hangers want me off,i'm gone.

Lillian
06-17-2007, 03:23 PM
humm
Please do not let two or three hull head, arlo, elrod type people run you away.
Hold your own with them. There are lots of smart and wonderful people that use this site. I wish there were a way to ..... I better stop right there.
Stay and share
Lillian

Jeff Evans
06-18-2007, 12:02 AM
What might be helpful is to be honest about who you are and not appear as a troll. Your profile, which is easily read by anyone, says Tom Francis. The other day you said your name was Jimmy Rodgers.

Yes, there are many helpful people on here willing to reply. I've replied a few times to DBLCUT with answers to his questions, but nobody likes to feel duped.

Apparently there is a Connecticut hanger who has a similar profile, who has been offered help many times with joining the Guild but has refused. The question has been asked several times here if this is the guy. The answers have been vague, to say the least, and then there's the discrepancy with the username. Sorry, but it smells fishy to me, and I don't like to be played for a fool. Sorry if this is not the case.

Joining the Guild is not an expensive proposition. If you are indeed working in that part of the country then you are working in the high end portion of the market. You would do yourself a big favor by joining and attending meetings, where you can find answers to all your questions and more. Posting them here, and APPEARING deceptive is not the way to go about things. :2cents:

Cliff Hayes
06-18-2007, 12:48 AM
Be gone already.

Bill Archibald
06-19-2007, 01:24 AM
I second what Jeff says 100%.

We are a fraternity (as in tight brotherhood) of installers that cherish our friendships as much as our skill, professionalism, and integrity. This public forum is so that we can extend or knowledge to those in need. We do so to the DIY'er so that they will do the best job their experience can manage and thus they will remain in love with wallpaper - yes, ulterior motives, it helps the industry. We pass on our expertise to the non-member installers so that they can realize what a benefit Guild membership is, again, ulterior motives, we want to build the Guild.

Now, if you are NOT the poster on APN formally know as TomEHarp, then we all apologize, but let me tell you something about him. He is a hack and one who is uninterested in improving himself by aligning himself with those who can make him a credit to this profession. Simply put, he gives the industry a bad name, which is hurtful to all of us. He "plies his trade" in Fairfield County - where you posted you are from. I communicated with him a number of times "back channel" , he informed me his name was "Tommy Harper". I received no indication that he was interested in improving himself for the long term. Three NGPP Conn Chapter member reached out to him with offers to transport him to audit any number of their chapt meetings. He had one inane excuse after another. But he was always willing to ask questions of us when needed. He took, but never gave.

Cliff worked recently with one of those CT Chapt members and was informed that TomEHarp real name was Tom Esposito and he played harmonica (TomEHarp) and had resurfaced. Cliff firmy believes you are he. Perhaps he is right, perhaps he is mistaken. I can not prove either to him.

We do not want trouble either. And we really do not want to brow beat and insult an innocent who is looking to improve himself. But we have a lot of info that just doesn't add up.

Your bio says your name is Tom Francis. You said Jimmy Rodgers. (as in the country singer of the late 50's early 60's? "Honeycomb" was the song I remember) Your bio says "musician" TomEHarp is one also. One of your posts said you were from Fairfield County. So is TomEHarp. Your bio says 20 years experience residential (you've posted 25 years) yet you ask some real basic questions that most of us have found the answers to after no more than five years.

Now, Tom - Jimmy - whatever, I'm really trying to be nice by explaining the conundrum we are facing. The evidence, be it circumstantial, is overwhelming.

As Jeff says, nobody likes feeling duped. If you are not the poster formally know as TomEHarp, then again I apologize profusely. If you are TomEHarp, then realizing that we can not convince you to take that leap to further your professionalism by joining the NGPP, then perhaps you should disappear. If you are, as you say you are, Tom Francis or Jimmy Rodgers, then stay and prove our suspicions wrong. It will be an uphill battle, but so is life.

-Bill