hello all

[brit stick]

hi every one new to the forum brit stick from london uk

[cgreene]

Welcome Brit. Nice to know we have another Brit to interpret some of those words in English written instructions.:roflmao:

[LaRusso]

Hello and welcome to the NGPP forum.

My name is Vincent J. LaRusso and I am the International Membership Chairperson, if you need any help please do not hesitate to ask me.

Hope all is busy in the UK, a little slow here in the U.S.A.

We have members all over the World, Japan, Canada, England, South Africa, Mexico & Austrialia.

So do not be shy and jump in the World of wall covering installation and talk with the members of the NGPP (National Guild of Professional Paperhangers) about wall coverings, you probably have some tricks up your sleeve to share with us.

Thanks again,

Vincent J. LaRusso
Metro Regional Director
International Membership Chairperson

[My-T-Fine]

Welcome Brit to the forum... :tiphat::tiphat:

[brit stick]

thanks for the wellcome chaps i will help any way i can
works quite busy over here booked up till the middle of september .
any one hung a hand print called beverley hills martinique something to do with the hotel of the same name .
bannana palm leaf ?:banana::banana:

[blauvelt]

Hey Brit, Yes. I've hung that stuff several times. Did a cabana a few months ago. The 27" is fine but it's one of those papers where the white part of the seam closes nicely and the green part you have to spend a little more time with (bring some green color). Now if you get the 54" good luck. No matter what I did (dry trim or wet trim) the green paint flaked off the edge. You have to handle the 54" very delicately.

[brit stick]

hi ya blauvelt thanks for the input ,the job in question was a few months ago the client was happy and i got paid so no problems there .
but i did struggle with the prep of the paper it was the 27" i had to hang and there was no instructions. it needed bench trimming ,on the selvedge there was some print that looked like 10in or join with the bottom of the j missing with an arrow pointing towards the middle of the piece .
i bench trimmed to the patterns edge and the pattern match was way out by doing an overlap and splice joint the match was better but not spot on with a bit of touching in it looked ok. so my point is have i missed something or did i just get a dud batch happens here all the time hope that makes sense bit long winded

[blauvelt]

Hey Brit, I don't think you missed anything. The print is on the paper cockeyed. I trim it wet on the table, color a little bit and walk away. The pattern itself is busy enough that seams don't jump out at you.

We can only do the best we can do with what we have to work with.

If you ever get the 54" run away!

[brit stick]

cheers blauvelt thanks for the advice you mentioned trim it wet on the table
do you mean after the paper has been pasted ? the detail other forum users go in to is huge the industry seems to be much bigger in the states than it is here there are very few good stickers in london i seem to do a lot of put right jobs its amazing how many chancers there are over here .
no more apprentice`s thats the problem all the old school stickers are turning it in . its a disapering trade

[blauvelt]

Hey Brit, Yes. When I said trim wet I meant paste, book, and trim on the table. With paper like the banana leaves where the trim marks and pattern are off I generally measure in to the farthest trim mark and cut there. I have a 5" piece of glass inlaid in my table and trimming on it works well for me. I know a lot of guys (myself included) who went from trimming on the wall to trimming on the table. I never heard of anyone going from table trimming to busting them on the wall.

I don't see many younger stickers over here either. I'm 51 and the youngest I know. :)

Good luck at it. Sounds like you're filling a nice niche.

[LaRusso]

Hello again Brit,

Here at the NGPP we have an continuing education program and it goes all over the World.

Come this November the Japanese have invited us to visit them and talk about a school or chapter in Japan.

Like I said before we have members all over the World and are very strong on training or teaching installers, so they can kept up with their kraft.

By the way we have a percentage of young installers in thier 20's and 30's, not a lot mind you but enough to say we are spreading the word.

I hope you can spread the word about us back home, for we are the only organization in the World that specifies in the art of installations of wall coverings.

There are many of installers out in the World and do not know about us, just recently Blauvelt found us and only wish he knew about us in the past. Hey better late then never I always say, so please spread the word.

Manufactures are dying for people like us for they have been struggling with the fact that thier wall coverings are being handle by non-pro's and they need us and are coming to us and asking for our help.

Keep the faith it is slowly turning around and the young designer coming out of design school is pro wall covering, along with all the high-end wall coverings they will need us even more that in the past.

Stick around it will be worth your time.

Together we can make a difference

Have a great day,

Vincent J. LaRusso
International Membership Chairperson

[brit stick]

hey blauvelt thanks for the kind advice i am 38 and by far the youngest sticker i know the older guys whos skills i respect are so secretive for fear of compitition its hard to move forward .
by way of a response to larusso`s post i have allready learnt so much from
archived posts if only i had found the site ages ago .
i have been decorating for 22yrs now but the last two yrs i have seen a huge demand for wallcoverings i get offerd so much now that i am looking to phase out the painting for good in the future .with regards to the sharing of knowlage or passing on skills i have done a little lectureing at the local collage and the lack of resources and commitment from the staff is shocking
the students get to hang if lucky a roll or two of cheap nasty vinal thats so rubbish it falls apart before they can use it or linning paper which they have to remove before it drys this seems to be the future of the trade over here i was lucky enough to get an apprenticeship after leaving school at 16 , 5 yrs passed down from a true crafts man sadley no loger with us .
apprenticeship is the only way ,i have had a few over the yrs if trade stays lively i will do it again my company is called deluxe decor by the way .

[blauvelt]

Brit, If you've never tried trimming these papers on glass give it a shot. Route out a board and drop a mirror in it. It works great for trimming hand prints. It's also good for trimming pre trimmed with damaged edges or like this dark paper that showed white edges. You can trim a much smaller piece than you can on wood or zinc and get a cleaner cut. No manufacterer on the planet can give you a better edge.

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[Eunice, PRS Reporter]

Hi blauvelt and brit stik. I'm a transplanted Limey living in Edmonton Canada. Been in the Guild for 6 years or so, installing for 20+. Love hearing the paperhanging lingo you use. I think I'll start calling myself a 'sticker' now. Glad to have you with us and hope to meet you at a convention one day. I probably travel the furthest to be there, and it's worth every penny in learning, networking, and skill/confidence building. Cheers.

[blauvelt]

Hi Eunice, Sticker is good stuff no doubt about it.

[Elsie Kapteina]

Welcome "Sticker" - I too love that term. May I suggest that you back channel Vinny. He is our International Liason. He can work with you about our benefits and might be able to connect you with some of our friends in England. We are glad that you found us. e

[wallliner]

Hello Brit,

You better join the guild; La Russo is your men,
just listen to him.

Uncle Edy

[brit stick]

glad to get such feed back from every one intresting that some of you like the term sticker theres a slang word for every thing in london most of them i couldnt put on a public forum .
yesterday i had a "butchers "at a job ,butchers hook = look ,so i had a look at a job . the house was a bungalow so there was no "apples and pears" = stairs but theres plenty of room for my "aunt mable" = table if all go`s well i might get paid in "bangers and mash " = cash then i might get my " trouble and strife " = wife`s "jam jar" = car fixed , you wouldnt "adam and eve " = believe ,it if you saw the dent in it she couldnt have been using her "minces" = mince pies = eyes .
any way i have had a "butchers" at joining the guild but dont understand how to do it, it would be intresting to know what the benifits would be .

[Eunice, PRS Reporter]

Ahh, cockney rhyming slang - I grew up with my parents using it all the time - had to teach the husband tho - now he even pops out the occasional word. It's good code when you need to speak and not be understood by all.

[Bill Archibald]

It's good code when you need to speak and not be understood by all.

I just open my mouth :devil: