preppin' venetian plaster

[master hanger]

Went to look at a restaurant today. Covering all the venetian plaster with commercial vinyl.(type II) The plaster is quite flat,(and in excellent condition), so that won't be an issue. I told the painter to give me a day to think about what would fit the bill for prep. Can't use any oil base since they're not closing down for this.

My first thought was a shieldz or the like over a 80 grit sanding. I then thought that more of a bonding type, (R-35 or such), may be a better choice.

Thoughts?

[Boston Hangman]

Went to look at a restaurant today. Covering all the venetian plaster with commercial vinyl.(type II) The plaster is quite flat,(and in excellent condition), so that won't be an issue. I told the painter to give me a day to think about what would fit the bill for prep. Can't use any oil base since they're not closing down for this.

My first thought was a shieldz or the like over a 80 grit sanding. I then thought that more of a bonding type, (R-35 or such), may be a better choice.

Thoughts?

scuff it up and use Swing prep coat....it sticks to everything!

[My-T-Fine]

Hi Dennis, I've been in love with Draw tite no run ever since I started using it about six months ago. It basically does the same thing oil would do and I think even better. There is a bit of a smell but it shouldn't last long..I think it would be perfect to seal in the VP.. I have it shipped to me as it's hard to get. My second choice would be Gardz which is more readily available...

[Boston Hangman]

I almost forgot :funky:....cause for celebration...covering venetian plaster with wallcovering woo hoo:banana::llama:

:distracted:Wallpaper is back (again):carrot:

[K.L. Conner]

You may want to do some test spots of primer before you quote the prep. All depends on what the artist used for his last coat.

[Shawn99]

Test a spot because the plaster is polished and some painters use car wax as a finish. You may need to wash the surface before priming. Shawn

[Boston Hangman]

good tips KL and Shawn... forgot about that step

[master hanger]

OK thanks some good advice. Went over the finish on the VP with the painter. Not polished, just burnished. I've been wanting to try drawtite, not here in the NY/NJ area I'm aware of. Guardz and clear shieldz seem the same to me.

Haven't heard from an R-35 lover out there

[Boston Hangman]

OK thanks some good advice. Went over the finish on the VP with the painter. Not polished, just burnished. I've been wanting to try drawtite, not here in the NY/NJ area I'm aware of. Guardz and clear shieldz seem the same to me.

Haven't heard from an R-35 lover out there

Gardz and clear Shieldz are not the same and R-35 $ucks!!!

[master hanger]

I almost forgot :funky:....cause for celebration...covering venetian plaster with wallcovering woo hoo:banana::llama:

:distracted:Wallpaper is back (again):carrot:

Yep made me happy too. care to elaborate on sucky R-35

[Boston Hangman]

For me it is too gummy and doesn't really bond well despite the stickiness of it upon drying. This is an inferior product that was marketed about the time everyone was worried about prepasted sticking to the wall....Swing knocks it out of the park Brutha.....do yourself a favor and pick up a case:thumbup:

[Jeff Evans]

Swing Prep coat- +1. Gardz is a heck of a lot more runny that DT no run. If you can get no run that's a good choice as well.

[My-T-Fine]

Draw Tite is just a phone call away. It comes from California but it always seems to arrive in just a few days.. Try it you'll like it! As far a R 35 is concerned, I think I wasted alot of money on it over the years...

http://www.scotchpaint.com/drawtite.html

[master hanger]

Funny... guess it depends where you are. Was on a job yesterday where the carpenter/paperhanger insists you have to R-35 the wall in the bath or the paper will fall down.:confused:
Oil prime /R35 was the way to go back in the early 70's around here. Hung untrimmed everything over that base. Don't see it much anymore, but still find guys who swear by R-35. Never had a adhesion problem with it. The only issue was the rolled up snot after removing something from it. Thought as a pure binder might work. Got on the shieldz bandwagon when that first came out for the "one product" approach. Not comfortable using that in this case. (or many other)

Think I've seen the swing from time to time. Funky looking label? Is that the blue or pink stuff? Canada? Can get that aound here I believe.

Maybe I'll tell the painter to get a case of the draw tite. no run I think someone mentioned. Thanks all:thumbup:

[Chris Nelson]

http://www.swingpaints.com/3107.htm

Great stuff when it is not stuck to the bottom of the can:deadhorse:

I am sure by now that has been fixed.:llama:

[Cohen]

There is an odorless oil paint made by ben moore for your info, I still like r-35 over painted walls only.:help: